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STOP THE OREGON RACKETEERING OPERATION - ARREST AND CONSEQUENCES FOR STATE LIARS AND THIEVES AFAB Bully/Disinformation Agent Meets JOCO Sheriff's Office
pamela gaston ( www.avoiceforchildren.com )wrote:
jacklancaster@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Sat, 29 May 2004 10:57:43 -0700
jl: Let's get this out in the open....Jack
AFAB Bully/Disinformation Agent Meets JOCO Sheriff's Office
pg: The article posted at the end by the robots is a prime example of their method and operation, slander and denigrate when you have no truth and no facts. The words used, and the questioning of his mental faculties is always the way the prostitutes for the court begin the rendering on everybody. And that they wont give their names is so typical.
pg: Always they question the mental health - when do they face assessment and rendering? The pattern is a corrupt judge orders a mental health evaluation with a prostitute "doctor" for the state. ALL reports and ALL information they can gather IS used against you in the court, then they say you are "unfit to proceed" suffereing "prosecutorial delusions that the judge is corrupt". We know one many who they not only did this to, with those words on the order, but then they committed him (no crime except speaking the truth in the court) and put electrodes on his head, ran him through magnetic scanners, forced blood draws and wanted to shoot radioactive die into him to "see if he had a brain condition that was causing this delusion"... there is no end to the crimes they will commit to silence those who are standing againt their agressions. We ALL have to say NO collectively now...
pg: The man they are slandering has repeatedly been jailed, nearly dies, is elderly and in poor health, and is making the record in the court as they are attacking him and his wife mercilessly. He is STANDING on original jurisdiction, as everyone in the state needs to be doing, and telling corrupt public servants that there are going to be consequences for their criminal violations of the people's rights.
pg: This Sheriff Daniels is a criminal, fully invovled in racketeering and fraud. We heard him lie before he was elected and the Oregon Observer thought he would be hones, as soon as he was elected it was apparent he is just another criminal on the streets making a big paycheck and pension for his crimes.... so far....
pg: What Raymond Karczewski is what terrifies them the most - the TRUTH IN THE RECORD of their crimes. Undisputed testimony becomes fact in the court, and that is the tool of the freeborn people to excercise our rights, to make the record, to bring forth remedy, to stand and not be "managed" as a slave with masters and statutes to control our Inherent Rights.
pg: ALL who act the way the post at the end is, and this is typical character word for word that the people run into in the courts - no names, no supporting facts, only slander and the judge upholds it, writes another lie on a judicial order and their racketeering operation is protected....
pg: STAND WITH THIS MAN.... STAND WITH EACH OTHER.... STAND AGAINST THIS BIG LIE BEING PERPTRATED ON US THAT WE HAVE NO RIGHTS... .THE TRUTH IS THE POWER AND IT HAS TO BE ON THE RECORD WHERE THEY HAVE TO DISPUTE AND THEY CANT,LIKE THIS MAN IS DOING AND SUFFERING INCREDIBLE RETALIATION FOR IT.
pg: We have to understand these compelled contracts are slavery, and when we comply we are "volunteering" for their abuse, that is actually what they say in a court. We have to all at once remove our license plates, quit carrying any kind of papers at all, stop getting any kind of licenses or insurance compelled on freeborn people.... it is an UNCONSTITUITONAL SCHEME and more of us have to confront it to stop them everywhere we see them, like the liars theives and parasites they all are who are abusing people in their official capacities and operating this racketeering operation from within those same offices.
pg: MAKE THE RECORD WITH THE FACTS OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO YOU AS THEY DO IT. THAT IS THE KEY. AND THEN THE PEOPLE SEE THEY CANT, AND THEIR SILENCE IS THEIR GUILT.
pamela gaston
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:20 pm Post subject: The guy needs some help
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I am wondering if anybody in the County government has thought what Ray K needs is not your typical criminal sanctions, but rather, some professional help.
We know Ray is a high-maintenance prisoner.... it's not every criminal who finds a way to get kicked out of jail. But he's trying his best to get back in. What are you going to do when there's another round of fraudulent actions served, driving without a license, or firearms violations? Just my opinion here, Ray is a danger to himself, his family, the people of JoCo, and not least of all, to the motoring public. (If you think Anita is doing the driving, stop deluding yourself.)
And let's not forget the mysterious circumstances under which Raymond received a disability discharge from the Pacifica PD in 1971. And that Raymond was too deep-end for even Roy Masters.
Sure it ain't cheap, but have you ever considered a psychatric evaluation of the man? And you know, there are amazing drugs that can be quite effective at treating some schizophrenics. You never know, Ray Himself might thank you for it afterwards
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To JCSO: re The Ongoing FBI Investigation
From: "art_in_heav3n" <art_in_heav3n@y...>
Date: Fri May 28, 2004 5:52 am
I hope Cpl Rarey or Sgt Tripp can answer this. But all information is good.
On Nov 2 1997 a complaint was lodged with the Medford field office of the FBI, demanding an investigation of Government/Media
Sponsored/Supported Disinformation Agents practicing Mind Control
upon unwary Internet Users.
This investgation has been ongoing for 6½ years now. Their is
circumstatial evidence of Sen Ron Wydens office trying to stymie the investigation, under the pretence of helping.
Can you tell us anything abuut the status of this investigation. We know at least 2 JoCo residence are awaiting the conclusion of the Federal Criminal Investigation to pave the way for them to collect civil damages for Conspiracy to Libel. It is likely liens will be placed.
Thanks for any information, or if the JCSO doesnt know anything about this long anticipated for momentum, maybe the sheriffs office is one of the targets.
Art
Sun May 30, 2004 7:52 am
Usenet reader wrote:
ur: > If you doubt Ray's insanity, please see
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=40b44292.7792541%40news.west.earthlink.net
P: Aaaah, sorry, but I just read this link you provided and it does not sound like he is crazy, it sounds like you both are fighting over some long term posting elsewhere and you bring it where ever you go. Who is following who would be my question. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean their crazy and should be on drugs.
P: You know, you people are scaring me. This is suppose to be a
free country whether you agree with someone or not doesnt' mean you should find ways to either throw them in jail or incarcerate them in a mental institution with drugs. I may disagree with you but I will defend to the death your right to your opinion. This is beginning to sound like Nazi Germany in the 30's. (read that history for those of you who never took history). this is exactly what the Nazi's did with dissidents who disappeared so Hitler could consolidate his power base and get rid of anyone with a different opinion. (the remaining dissidents emigrated to avoid the same fate).
P: I don't know Rays history, but I do know the way you all talk
about him and what you should do to him for his unique perspective is disturbing at the very least.
P: BTW, usenet, why are you obssessing on him anyway??? I just
realized you follow him where ever he goes based on that link. I agree with his question, who are you anyway???? Do YOU have an agenda???
P: Also, why, since you have kept this thread going, my two other posts deleted???? I would have understood if you stopped this thread altogether but you didn't and you didn't address that post at all about the encounter in the court house and the threats made to him there??? If I simply rag on him would my posts be acceptable????? Just curious as to the direction we are going in thsi country starting at the local level?
P
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
rk:"SOVEREIGN TRUTH" -- MY BUTT!!
rk: I just returned from a visit to your board "Sovereign Truth" ( http://p221.ezboard.com/fsovereigntruthfrm17 ) only to find that the government/media disinformation agents were already there and had fraudulently posted articles under my name.
rk: Here is what I found:
"Hi, Sovereignty fans. Thanks for setting up this board. We are going to post here, Ray Karczewski especially. If you pay attention, you will learn how to not be a SATANIC ignoramus and a spiritual pipsqueak!
FORGED DOCUMENT:
Raymond Karczewski
Stranger
(5/30/04 9:26)
Reply Re: Glad to be here Thank you for the introduction, "Lampwick".
Most seekers of "Sovereignty" remain blinded to the TRUTH, failing to grasp that the essential dilemma of Mankind is a spiritual one. I am a Christ. Am I claiming to be Jesus Christ? No, I am not, for He is my little Brother.
If you listen quietly to My message, ignoring the chatter of the dualistic, hell-bound intellect, you will easily recognize the TRUTH of it. Some may resist My message, preferring instead the company of predatory jackals. To these, I can only say, you will be added as targets of the FBI investigation into Government/Media sponsored/supported Mind Control/Disinformation Agents operating upon unwary Internet users.
I am not ever "off topic" on any forum. The universal condition of humankind is such that EVERYONE needs to hear My message to be awakened from their dualistic, hell-bound, slumbering hypnotic state.
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Resist Not Tyrannical Government
BOYCOTT IT!!
Raymond Karkzewski
www.arkenterprises.com "
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rk: All of the above IS A FORGERY! (Note the two different spellings of my name as author and in the sig line above.) These disinformation agents have stalked my writing wherever it appears on the net for the sole purpose of discrediting my simple message. I guess my writing has been effective though, and I've been stepping on some toes for this kind of "over the top" government/media attention.
rk: Anyone interested in going to this board must ask themselves the question: What lengths (time & expense) won't the government/media disinfo folk go to in order to create confusion and misdirection in their attempt to discredit the simple truth?
I have neither subscribed to, nor posted anything to this board. It is apparent to me this is a DISINFO SITE.
. . . And you folks out there THINK you are not subjects of MIND CONTROL!! Wake up, America!! In your present hypnotic slumber, YOU'RE BEING HAD DAILY BY THOSE IN WHOM YOU HAVE PUT YOUR TRUST.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
TRVTH Seeker wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
May 31, 04 - 5:28 AM
http://pub17.bravenet.com/forum/1435593256/fetch/331688/
ts: > Just What WAS It They Were Talking About On The Joco Sheriff Board
ts: > Message: Come on and spill it Crazy Ray. Just what were the 'mysterious circumstances' around your departure from the Pacifica PD?
ts: > Did it have something to do with shooting up those department store mannekins?
rk: You see, folks, even when the facts are known, government/media disinformation agents continue on with their use of the "Big Lie" technique.
rk: Small time Grants Pass journalist ed wilkinson, who writes under many, many aliases on the Internet, was the only person I told this story to. wilkinson, a real piece of work as a satanic-driven deceiver is one of the government/media disinformation agents conducting this smear campaign on these Internet newsgroups/forums.
rk: The following statement was excerpted from my post: "Anonymity and Libel: Disinformation Tools for the Government/Media Internet Operative!!" Dated: 2003-04-19 21:15:39 PST.
Excerpt:
rk: "Interesting, that you should bring up the "mannequin" scenario. As a Security Patrol company owner, I once refused to hire an applicant who confided that he had shot a mannequin in a Bay Area Department store while working the graveyard shift. I told this story at a picnic years ago, ONLY to ED WILKINSON, aka AGENT SIR ED, an AFAB bully and previous "ROYBOT" cult member of the Roy Masters group. By the way, WILKINSON was one of the "suspects" referred to the FBI for investigation. "clouded leopard," methinks you just "TRIPPED OVER" the evergrowing
evidence pile."
rk: Inasmuch as you government/media disinformation agents have ratcheted up the smear campaign to include the Josephine County Sheriff's Office bulletin board as a disinformation platform to commit the crime of "conspiracy to libel" and in doing so, implicate the Sheriff and his staff in your agenda, I DEMAND the Josephine County Sheriff's Office put an end to this criminal behavior and launch a full investigation into the wide spread Internet disinformation campaign the FBI has heretofore refused to touch. SEE: http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html
rk: Oh yes, ed wilkinson would be a good starting point. I don't presume to tell you guys how to do your jobs, but this one's a gimmee. Let's see if you can handle a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION handed you on a SILVER PLATTER.
rk: Let's see if Sheriff Dave H. Daniel has the cajones to do his job!!!
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
cc's to:
Sheriff Dave Daniel DDANIEL@co.josephine.or.us (541)474-5123
Oregon Attorney General Hardy Meyers: hardy.myers@state.or.us
Presiding Judge Gerald C. Neufeld: (541) 476-2309
District Attorney Clay E. Johnson: DA@co.josephine.or.us
(541) 476-5200
Josephine County Board of Commissioners: BCC@co.josephine.or.us
kathylynndean@direcway.com wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Hi Ray,
kld: > We are all in complete sympathy with your situation, and know you have gone through hell and back with your sentencing, hunger strikes, and constant battles with the system that we all realize is BEYOND corrupt here in the county.
kld: > I am not the "Owner" of this board, but I know they don't want it taken in the direction you are going with it.
rk: One must ask why the "Owner" of the board would not be interested in seeing or providing his/her readership the "Big Picture."
rk: Power-oriented tyrants, judges, DA's, Sheriffs, Bureaucrats, etc., are disarmed at the subtle stages of planning and action, not at the grossest level of implementation of policy. There, one can only react emotionally and partially, and thereby surrender our rights and accept victimization. We must be whole in our actions to be effective in taking on tyrants.
rk: Parochial and conditioned thought is the enemy. It allows the tyrant to divide and conquer. to pick and choose, to isolate and imprison. It happened to me. It happened to Nick. It is happening all over the country to people who have put their trust in an untrustworthy government. Look to your words, kathy, they will tell you at what level you yourself are acting.
kld: > Please don't link this site with other sites, or cause other sites to link with this one. Also, I understand your form of writing, but many people don't.
rk: Have you not heard the one about hiding your light under a bushelbasket? It's time to come out of the darkness of one's self-imposed closet and act in the full light of day.
rk: Perhaps without realizing it, Kathy, you put your finger on the reason we are losing our country -- CONDITIONED IGNORANCE.
kld: > Please do, and continue to comment on any and all subjects in relation to the JoCo Sheriff Department, because that's what this site was set up for.
rk: Kathy, limited Truth is no Truth at all. Truth does not operate in a man-made vacumn. Truth shatters such parochialism.
kld: > But disagreements with other websites, or replies from people that don't identify themselves, or are concocted, or are being made up by people on other websites, or whatever the problem is, just don't belong here.
rk: Yes they do! How many are able to see it, though?
kld: > We want to keep this as simple as possible, and at a level where every single person knows what everyone is talking about.
rk: There is nothing to be gained through gossip, moaning, groaning, wringing of hands and doing nothing. The envelope must be pushed into action. What I see here on this forum is a lot of go-nowhere talk. In some venues, it's called VENTING!!
rk: Those who are in control MUST allow victims to VENT. It's an emotional escape valve. When VENTING ceases, REVOLUTIONS begin.
kld: > That doesn't mean we have to agree with one another, but we do have to understand what each other is talking about!
rk: But the question is -- do we understand each other? Your comments tell me you are acting as a buffer for those readers in whom you have no faith.
kld: > If someone can help me out with what I am trying to say, I would appreciate it! Ray has his website at www.arkenterprises.com and I believe postings such as this belong over there, not over here.
rk: Kathy, my writing belongs anywhere where people are guided by Truth. For those who hide their head in the sand and react only when misfortune befalls them, well, there's not much you can do for them, is there? Success is in timing, and success is in BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT!
rk: Kathy, are you disturbed over my writing? If not, I do not understand your support of such parochialism. If the People of America are to survive what is coming at the hands of our corrupt leaders, they must stand up, speak, and act for themselves.
kld: > If we have "Disinfo Agents" over here, we'll weed 'em out, stomp on there heads and then spray them with Raid...K.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
kathylynndean@direcway.com wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Mon, 31 May 2004
kld: > Subject: A Sad Way to Close...
kld: > Ray, please try to understand that this was not my decision alone. It was the decision of quite a few people, and due to quite a few complaints.
rk: All of whom prefer to remain in the shadow of anonymity. Whatever happened to one's right to face one's accusers?
kld: > You know I respect you, your wife and family.
rk: I know no such thing. I hear what you say, but I also watch what you do. Your actions are not of respect but arise from pressure by others. They pushed -- You caved!
kld: > I also respect your opinions on subjects, and your IQ is so far above most peoples, a lot of what you say goes over their heads.
rk: Perhaps the point has gotten across to your readership -- IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS!!
kld: > But just the reverse is true also. By saying the things you say, you also insult people.
rk: I don't insult anyone, I mirror them as they are. The perceived insult comes from self-realization of guilt and self-judgment. To point out ignorance is never an insult but a blessing.
kld: > Not intentionally, I'm sure, but you do so all the same.
rk: There is one criteria, and one criteria alone which I present to all those who have felt insulted by my writing on the Internet. I ask them to ask themselves ---- "BUT IS IT TRUE?!!"
kld: > Also, by making up "people" you are talking to has confused many people on this Yahoo site, and I'm the one to get the complaints.
rk: See what I mean about the ignorance of "group think?" You folks bought into the disinformation campaign. NONE, I say again, NONE of the people I address in my posts are MADE UP! If your readership can stumble over a blade of grass on an otherwise manicured lawn, how in the world are they ever going to survive the jungle of confusion and violence which awaits them. It would appear there doesn't exist a lick of sense among the whole lot on your board if the anonymous complaints come down to the promoted disinformation "lie" of "making up people."
kld: > I try to explain that you march to a slightly different drummer than the rest of us do, and your opinions are to be respected.
rk: Drummer?? Hell, kathy, I march to a whole different BAND!!
kld: > Twice I have asked you to please stick to the subject of JOCO Sheriff Watch, but you insist on bringing other websites, people, issues and disinformation agents into the topic.
rk: Apparently wide-ranging synthesis of the "Big Picture" is lost on the narrowminded readers of your board. You folks sit around counting and comparing leaves, but readily shun the hard work of digging out the root of the problem.
kld: > I know that all these issues are somehow realted to corruption within the Government system, but it is not the direction that this Yahoo site is directed.
rk: Then admittedly, the purpose of the board is not to resolve the problem, but merely to complain and commiserate about it.
kld: > We all suffer with you, and know what you have had to endure.
rk: Kathy, please don't!! You don't have a clue of what another has endured. You're too focused on frivolous emotional reaction.
(that is not an insult. Put it to the test -- ask yourself "BUT IS IT TRUE?") Seriousness and depth of inquiry is not the forte of the JOCO Sheriff's Watch board.
kld: > We all know the system is corrupt and needs to be brought down.
rk: It won't be done by counting and comparing leaves while there remains hard digging to be done.
kld: > And, The most important part is that we can all work together to do it.
rk: Gimme a break!! That's what I presumed we were doing until anonymous people who won't come out of the shadows began to complain about being insulted. How far can you get with that kind of "spiritual kindergarten-playtime-sandbox" mentality?
kld: > You will continue to do it in the best manner you see fit, and others will continue to do it in the manner they see fit.
rk: And NEVER THE TWAIN SHALL MEET, EH?
kld: > But, insulting other members of this board will not be tolerated, nor will duplicate identifications. Disagreeing with someone is wonderful; insulting them is not.
rk: Perhaps you'll point out the person and the insult, but remember this -- BUT IS IT TRUE?!!
kld: > I realize you have been banned from just about every site on the web, and I (and others) were hoping you would stay on track here.
rk: You hoped I would tow the line and "go along to get along." Sorry, you're gonna have to find "Rodney King" for that one. You saw where it got him.
kld: > You outright refuse to do so, for reasons none of us understand.
rk: Understanding "BUT IS IT TRUE" is a tough one to figure out for some people, isn't it?
kld: > Since all the notes you post here are also posted at your own site and elsewhere, the discussions you want to have should be held on those sites.
rk: Kathy, you have fallen prey to the pressure of compartmentalism. That's how the masses are kept IGNORANT by their government handlers. It's called keep em in the dark and "DIVIDE AND CONQUER!"
kld: > No, I am not a "buffer", I am not disturbed by your writing or any of the other things you and elephant man accused me of.
rk: Perhaps you will point out what I have accused you of in my past posts? I don't recall accusing you of anything. Perhaps now you may see what I mean about self-judgment and and the self-revealing question of -- "BUT IS IT TRUE?"
kld: > In fact, your comments don't phase me, they only disappoint me.
rk: Kathy, reread your posts -- It doesn't take a Raymond Karczewski to phase you -- YOU'RE PHASED by this whole government experience. It is foolish to attempt to mask it and put on a brave face. Deal with "what is" holistically and trust in divine intelligence to guide you through.
kld: > I will send this note personally to you, the owner, and also post it on the board.
rk: Who is this "mysterious" owner of the board who is pressuring you to ban a clear voice of Truth? What's his/her agenda for setting up the board? Is it a "One Issue" Board, a memorial to "Speckles the Chicken?"
kld: > If you want to fight about the decision to remove you from here, please direct your comments to the board owner.
rk: God helps those who help themselves. If in our society we cannot stand together against tyranny as independents, we shall fall through the illusion of codependence.
kld: > We all sincerely wish you success after all these years of struggle; go get em! K.
rk: "Go get em!" Kathy, that smacks of the same spirit of "we're behind you -- waaaayyyy behind you!
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
This is what happens when Internet government/media disinformation provocateurs put one over on undiscerning forum moderators and go into their "victory dance!!"
I have demanded of the Josephine County Sheriff Dave H. Daniel that his department conduct an investigation into the criminal (conspiracy to libel) campaign the FBI has evaded since 1997. See: http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html
See "still small voice" below. These mind control/disinformation agents have employed the "Big Lie" technique while they have stalked me on the internet for the last eight years.
While mind controlled ignoramuses slumber on while waiting for a major disaster to penetrate their dulled consciousness, their rights and freedoms are methodically being stripped away from them through incremental mind control techniques such as those demonstrated in the posts below.
Look at the preemptive martial law which has just been declared by the governor of the STATE OF GEORGIA.
Just what's it gonna take for Americans to wake up -- a hard day in the boxcars and a quick trip to the showers?
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
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Chicken Board Moderator goes Ballistic Over Ray's Sock-puppet
Name: I'm only the messenger wrote:
Date Posted:Jun 1, 04 - 11:14 PM
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JOCO_SheriffsWatch/message/296?source=1
Message: From the "Chicken Board"...
From: "Kathy L. Dean"
Subject: RE: [JOCO_SheriffsWatch] Re: RE:Message to Ray from Kathy...
First of all, get out of your condescending attitude and realize that just because I am a woman, does not mean I'm stupid. If you believe Ray is a Christ, and you are his foot soldier, good for you. Spread your message in whatever way you wish, and in whatever manner you wish. The Internet has room for every single idea, religion, thought and attitude a person might have on this whole planet.
Plus, you are welcome at any time to post your opinions on sites such as this, because that's what they are here for. But, don't you EVER insult people on this Yahoo site again, or assume things about people you know absolutely nothing about. Also, I happen to know the owner did not set this site up to have people such as yourself come on here to tell other people what they are, or are not to do.
This site was started to help solve rampant JoCo County corruption, and get people's input on a means to end it. This site is not here to protect "chicken rustlers" as you state. Either submit suggestions and ideas that can help people in Josephine County head in a direction to hopefully one day
put an end to what the Sheriff Dept, DA and Judges are currently doing to numerous citizens of this area, or just keep you mouth shut. Understood?
_____
From: Art Heffner
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 12:26 AM
To: JOCO_SheriffsWatch@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [JOCO_SheriffsWatch] Re: RE:Message to Ray from Kathy...
Kathy,
Can you grasp what Ray is dealing with. Do you not know Ray is a
Christ and A CHRIST MUST BE ABOUT HIS FATHER'S BUSINESS.
What his doing is much more than just protecting chicken rustlers. Ray is healing a SPIRITUAL SICKNESS. That is spread all across the whole land. You are just helping that in a small way. Do you think his whole mission must be about you.
This forum is just one of many. Raymond must post his message
everywhere its not blocked from. That is why he has taken every email and post to you, and from you, and everything from this list, and shared it in DOZENS of mailing lits, web boards, and news groups. This is an ACT OF LOVE. And if he should take your message so far and wide. then how much more should you, a foot soldier in Ray's army, not interfear with Raymond sharing this HOLISTIC (whole) message with this board. Many govt agents are working to block Ray's Message. He is "BANNED" from some places, disinformation,libleous accusations of SPAM, ect. Are you on there side? Or what.
You and I have our jobs to fight for freedom. Ray K's job is to lead the fight. You do your job, let Ray do his.
Yours for Liberty,
Art Heffner©
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Ray Karczewski is BANNED from this Forum
Super Moderatur
Date Posted: May 31, 04 - 10:50 PM
Message: Any unauthorized poasting by Ray Karczewski is a self-executing contract, under which Ray agrees to pay $500,000 per occurance.
The Management
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Raymoid Karczewski is now banned from this board too
Admin wrote:
Date Posted:May 31, 04 - 10:43 PM
Message: Effective 5/31/2004, the Kazoo is hereby prohibited from poasting here.
That will be all.
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Shouldn't of shot the mannequins, Ray
Small Still Voice wrote:
Date Posted: May 31, 04 - 10:54 PM
Message: It was a bad move to shoot up the mannequins in Pacifica. For you.
For the rest of us, it was a blessing. It allowed the Chief to see what a nutcase you were, and force you out with a Mental Disability Discharge.
PS. It was I who told Kathy to ban you. Too bad you're so dense.
Visitor wrote;
CPL HELLER wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Location: Josephine County, Oregon
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:14 am on Josephine County Sheriff's Office Bulletin Board Forum Index -> Ask A Cop
subject: Re: A QUESTION
VISITOR wrote: THEN WHAT IS THE ANSWER? DOES EVERYONE JUST KEEP BANNING HIM FROM THEIR WEB SITES UNTIL HE GIVES UP AND IS FORCED TO JUST POST HIS CRAP N HIS OWN WEBSITE? fORCED INTERVENTION SINCE ITS APPARENT HES OFF HIS ROCKER. THAT CAN BE DONE YOU KNOW IF ENOUGH PEOPLE CARE ABOUT HIM (DOES HE HAVA A BIG FAMILY) TO DO A TOUGH LOVE SESSION ON HIM.
rk: The above disinformation technique by the anonymous poster. "Visitor" is called GUILT BY INSINUATION. Historically, anyone could be set up through such nefarious tactics -- the Inquisition and the Salem Witch Trials being the most notable examples.
v: > YOU HAVE TO FEEL SORRY FOR THE OLD DUDE; YOU KNOW HE AIN'T ALL THERE UPSTAIRS.
rk: What clearly isn't there (in the above statement) is an integral person who is willing to back up such libelous insinuations with his true identity and take responsibility for his unfounded statements. Granted, one is entitled to one's opinion, but only if it does not harm another's repution through baseless accusations.
v: > IF HAS GUNS AND IS A CONVICTED FELLON, THEN THATS YOUR GUYS JOB TO HANDLE THAT. sAME WITH THE DRIVING.
rk: One must first have a lawful court system; one free of the taint of corruption before conviction status of one who is brought before the court may be established. The Josephine County Judicial system fails miserably on that count. I am free and at home, caring for my ailing wife because I was unyielding in my determination to hold our courts accountable according to the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land. We stood face to face, They Intimidated, I stood unyieldingly -- They Blinked.
rk: Yet the same system of (in)justice allows anonymous disinformation provocateurs (such as the one called "Visitor") who post to this board to work overtime seeding baseless insinuations in the minds of an undiscriminating readership while accommodating police investigators such a Cpl. Heller act as "sanitizing" corporate PR "yes men."
v: > cAN YOU COMMIT SOMEONE? I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE NOONE GETTING HURT BY THE MESS HE HAS CHOSEN TO MAKE OF HIS LIFE IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
ch: Good questions.
rk: Like hell, cpl. Heller. Do your job. Show some initiative. Be a Cop. Probe the shadow dwelling, iniquitous "Visitor" for facts rather than assent to his baseless insinuations.
ch: 1. I'm not a website kind of guy. However, if the person managing a website has certain policies and others ignore those policies, then the person in charge of the website can remove articles that are beyond the scope and policy of the website. Kind of like when a race team uses Goodyear tires. For some reason you don't see a Firestone decal on the car. Ray has a right to post whatever he wants on his own site. You have the right to read ot or not.
rk: Cpl. Heller, why don't you get up and accompany Visitor? The man just asked you to dance!
ch: 2. I have no idea if Ray has a big family or not.
rk: I suggest those questions will be answered when your boss, Sheriff Dave H. Daniel, orders an investigation into this government/media disinformation fiasco or gives a reason for refusing to do so. After all, conspiracy to conduct mind/control/disinformation activities upon the unwary Internet using public resulting in unlawful, libelous witchhunts is a serious felony which impacts all of us. I have already sent Sheriff Dave H. Daniel two previous demands that an investigation into this matter be launched. Let us see if the JOCO Sheriff's Office is capable of conducting a professional investigation and not spend their time and budget only in saving face for unlawful arrests and imprisonments.
ch: 3. If we make a traffic stop and he is driving, we will deal with it. If in the course of an investigation, we discover he has prohibited weapons, we will deal with it.
rk: In other words, if you trip over a blade of grass, you will rip it out at its roots.
ch: 4. The police can not commit anyone. That is up to the courts. His family can request he be committed. Under certain circumstances the police can request a mental evaluation.
rk: Judge Alan Coon already played the mental commitment card and failed because the County and jail mental health people who interviewed me were glowing in their assessment of my stability, clarity and intelligence. Plays hell with anonymous insinuators who attempt to smear another via innuendo, doesn't It?
ch: I hope this helps.
rk: What would help is a little fairness. I bring Sheriff Dave Daniel's attention to the uneven playing field this "ask a cop" forum presents. http://www.cyberhouse.org/public/phpbb2/index.php It's questionable policy allows anonymous posters to smear another with innuendo while banning the person who is being smeared.
rk: Sounds like Institutionally stacked deck support of Witch Hunts, doesn't it?
rk: By the way Sheriff Daniel, I, once again charge you to do your job (and I will do so until you DO your job). A legitimate, professional investigation is warranted. One that will stand up to public scrutiny when finished. Either put these government/media disinformation provocateurs in jail or prove my charges are unfounded. This is by no means a FALSE REPORT!! DO YOUR JOB!!!
rk: I'll put my integrity, my reputation, my freedom on the line. Will you as Sheriff of Josephine County, Oregon put your integrity, your reputation on the line?
rk: THE SOVEREIGN PEOPLE DEMAND NO LESS!
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
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CPL HELLER
"paddymcpeak" <paddymcpeak@y...> wrote:
JOSEPHINE COUNTY, OREGON DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REJECTS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO FILE A CRIMINAL COMPLAINT.
by Raymond Karczewski
rk: So you, the People of America, thought reports of corruption in the Josephine County Justice System were exaggerated, eh? Here is what happens when one issues a complaint and demands that their JOCO public servants do their jobs. The following is the response recieved to my email notice to The Josephine County Sheriff, DA, and Board of Commissioners of the "Anatomy Of A Modern Day Witchhunt!!"
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X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 22:37:48 -0700
From: "Josephine County District Attorney" <DA@co.josephine.or.us>
Sender: Postmaster@co.josephine.or.us
Reply-To: DA@co.josephine.or.us
To: <arkent3@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Anatomy Of A Modern Day Witchhunt!!
X-ELNK-AV: 0
This item is rejected as unsolicited.
>>> arkent3 06/01/04 22:35 >>>
Anatomy Of A Modern Day Witchhunt!!
Visitor wrote;
CPL HELLER wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Location: Josephine County, Oregon
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:14 am on Josephine County Sheriff's Office Bulletin Board Forum Index -> Ask A Cop
By Raymond Karczewski
rk: The following statements by Kathy L. Dean were CUT AND PASTED directly off the JOCO SheriffsWatch Bulletin board. I attached my comments to them. It does tell the story, does it not? See original at bottom of post. (In case it mysteriously disappears.)
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From: "Kathy L. Dean" <kathylynndean@d...>
Date: Fri Jun 4, 2004 12:51 am
Subject: Oh Boy...A Change in Things...
kld: > The Owner of this board, who chooses to remain unnamed because they are a public official, just made me a co-owner. My first response was: "You can't do that to me!" The answer to that was: "Oh, yes I can."
rk: Note "Owner" is singular, yet kathy states "they" are a public official. Bad grammar or slip of the pressured intellect? In an earlier post Kathy said the decision to ban me from the forum was a group decision. (Government committee?)
kld: > So now we need a Moderator. I have it narrowed down to either Sean Rarey or Matt "Super Cop" Tripp, but am open to any and all suggestions.
rk: Sounds like kathy is jumping ship (unless kathy later denies writing this and posting it on the JOCO SheriffsWatch Bulletin Board). Sounds like kathy has been playing the role of "loyal opposition" until now, when she seeks to install those she opposes to moderate the forum. Sounds NUTS to me. How does it sound to you?
kld: > There is nothing really involved in being a Moderator. It does give you accesss to areas that normal members can't go. Don't like someone? Hit that delete button! ZAP! They are gone! Stuff like that.
rk: What an intelligent synopsis of the duties of MODERATOR! Kathy L. Dean, did you really write that? If you did, your beloved Speckles must be turning in her grave or wherever dead chickens go when evidence is disposed of in Josephine County, Oregon.
kld: > About the only responsibility would to make sure that the board does not head off in a direction totally different than what it is intended for.
rk: So Kathy, what was the direction the board was created for?
rk: What is the true AGENDA behind the board, a communication device instituted by an anonymous public official who chooses to remain unnamed because THEY ARE a public official, and who has the capacity to coerce an unwilling person to be a co-owner of the Board? (By the way, how does one become an OWNER of a bulletin board?). My first response was: "You can't do that to me!" The answer (from the unnamed public official) to that was: "Oh, yes I can."
kld: > I think it should be kept "civil" in a manner that we don't swear, too. You can call someone an idiot, just not a F*****G idiot.
rk: Kathy L. Dean, did you really write the above statement to include your own endearing phrase to describe those who would frequent your board, or is it another one of them thar government/media disinformation agent with MPD (Multiple Personality Disorder) forging your name as they have forged mine in the past? If so, why do you and the public official owner of the board allow these inane articles to stand on the bulletin board while my serious posts are removed? Have we all gone around the bend and stepped through the looking glass? Is everything BASSACKWARDS? When such insanity can be regarded as normal, have we not reached a new depth of mass hypnotic insanity? Is this not mind control at its zenith?
kld: > If Litsa (Kat) were not so busy, I would absolutely love her to be the Moderator, but that is totally up to her. I have a sinking feeling in my stomach that it will take quite a while before we get the JoCo political system headed in a legal direction, so I can see this board expanding.
kld: > Ray K. was being completely unfair when he called it the "Chicken Board" because that is not why the owner started it.
rk: Ok, ok, let's call it a "Chicken Public Official Board."
kld: > And the truth is I had no idea that it had even been put up, so it was a surprise to me.
rk: Yet you hit the ground running with it, didn't you?
kld: > People such as the two teachers that had to crawl around looking for a bomb at the school because Sheriff Daniel refused to help should be menbers of this board. It's not a "Chicken" board, it's a people's board. (minus Ray K.)
rk: Sounds to me like the anonymous public official whom you claim is the "owner" of this board has an agenda to smear the JOCO Sheriff's Office. Such agenda makes it all the more curious that you Kathy L. Dean (or whomever the person is who posts under that name) and the anonymous public official "owner of the board" are chumming the waters to net JOCO Sheriff's Deputies Tripp and Rarey as moderators for this forum.
rk: Is anybody out there picking up on the insanity of this situation? Are you really Kathy L. Dean or an anonymous government/media disinformation agent who is forging the name of Kathy L. Dean while spinning out forum articles?
rk: If it is a forgery, then why does it still remain on the bulletin board as of 7:00 PM on June 4, 2004?
rk: Also, why have all communications involving deputies of the Josephine County Sheriff's Office regarding Raymond Karczewski ceased to appear on JOCO SheriffsWatch http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JOCO_SheriffsWatch/
and Josephine County Sheriff's Office Bulletin Board (Ask a Cop Forum( http://www.cyberhouse.org/public/phpbb2/index.php ) since June 1, when I officially demanded a JOCO Sheriff's Investigation be launched into government/media disinformation agents using the Sheriff's web site as a platform for the dissemination of disinformation and libel? See "Anatomy Of A Modern Day Witchhunt!!" http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch99.html#Anatomy
rk: Why was a copy of my demand for an investigation routed to the office of the Josephine County District Attorney CLAY E. JOHNSON and kicked back with the note citing "This item is rejected as unsolicited."? Imagine that, one's complaint regarding corruption, fraud, and malfeasance of office in Josephine County, Oregon must first be solicited by the authorities before they will move on it. Have our government servants gone NUTS? Anybody pick up on the INSANITY of such bureaucratic protocol? See http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch99.html#JOSEPHINE
rk: Folks, meet JOSEPHINE COUNTY, OREGON, THE LAND OF BINKY WONKY!!! Pass through the LOOKING GLASS at your own peril!
kld: > There are all sorts of sites out there where people can have discussions about "disinformation agents" and "spies" and the "911 Big Lie" and how how everything is going to end soon. But this forum is called JOCO_SheriffsWatch.
rk: The best way to remain a undetected disinformation forum operation is to misdirect attention away from itself. JOSPHINE COUNTY, OREGON is so inept at what they do that anonymous public officials who set up bulletin boards to smear a public agency seek to enlist the help of employees/agents of that same agency to moderate and direct the published insanity of that board.
rk: What remains a mystery, and yet graphic testimony to the ignorance and apathy of the readers and contributors to both boards is that NO ONE SEEMS TO GET WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES! Perhaps it is this very state of mind which is responsible for the American people losing their country.
kld: > I'm open to suggestions and offers for a Monitor...K.
rk: I'll bet you are!!!
rk: A glaring question which faces blind ignoramuses who are led by the nose in their blindness must be asked -- What in the world is an anonymous public official doing owning an Internet bulletin board such as JOCO SheriffsWatch, and who seeks to employ the talents of Deputies of the Josephine County, Oregon Sheriff's office to moderate such a board?
rk: Anyone here sense a "Conflict of Interest?"
rk: This article is not being posted on either of the two boards above, as sanity is not allowed there; and as such, my posts have been banned. A casual reading of the posts on both boards will convince most that the INMATES ARE RUNNING THE ASYLUM (HOME OF THE "ASALEM" WITCH HUNTS?) IN JOSEPHINE COUNTY, OREGON.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
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From: "Kathy L. Dean" <kathylynndean@d...>
Date: Fri Jun 4, 2004 12:51 am
Subject: Oh Boy...A Change in Things...
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The Owner of this board, who chooses to remain unnamed because they are a public official, just made me a co-owner. My first responsewas: "You can't do that to me!" The answer to that was: "Oh, yes I can."
So now we need a Moderator. I have it narrowed down to either Sean Rarey or Matt "Super Cop" Tripp, but am open to any and all suggestions.
There is nothing really involved in being a Moderator. It does give you accesss to areas that normal members can't go. Don't like someone? Hit that delete button! ZAP! They are gone! Stuff like that.
About the only responsibility would to make sure that the board does not head off in a direction totally different than what it is intended for. I think it should be kept "civil" in a manner that we don't swear, too. You can call someone an idiot, just not a F*****G idiot.
If Litsa (Kat) were not so busy, I would absolutely love her to be the Moderator, but that is totally up to her. I have a sinking feeling in my stomach that it will take quite a while before we get the JoCo political system headed in a legal direction, so I can see this board expanding.
Ray K. was being completely unfair when he called it the "Chicken Board" because that is not why the owner started it. And the truth is I had no idea that it had even been put up, so it was a surprise to me.
People such as the two teachers that had to crawl around looking for a bomb at the school because Sheriff Daniel refused to help should be menbers of this board. It's not a "Chicken" board, it's a people's board. (minus Ray K.)
There are all sorts of sites out there where people can have discussions about "disinformation agents" and "spies" and the "911 Big Lie" and how how everything is going to end soon. But this forum is called JOCO_SheriffsWatch.
I'm open to suggestions and offers for a Monitor...K.
For Those In Search of Truth: This is What You Are Up Against in the Josephine County Oregon World of BINKY WONKY!!
By Raymond Karczewski
rk: The following comments are excerpted from Kathy Lynn Dean, moderator for the JOCO SheriffsWatch Bulletin Board, from a disinformation article she posted this day, June 3, 2004 on the JOCO SheriffsWatch Bulletin Board.
rk: Linked is the tape recording of the actual phone call, I, Raymond Karczewski, made to Kathy Lynn Dean which was recorded on her telephone answering machine while she apparently stood by too paralyzed by her own self-projected illusions to pick up the receiver. Is this a person in whom you can place your trust? PERHAPS IN JOSEPHINE COUNTY, OREGON!!
rk: I leave it to each who read this article and hear the recording to determine whether this open, above board, honest attempt at bringing about understanding on my part constitutes a "SHOCKING, FRIGHTENING, THREATENING, PHONE CALL as depicted by Kathy Lynn Dean.
rk: Then ask yourselves, Does Kathy Lynn Dean demonstrate a penchant for EXAGGERATION, DISTORTION, AND PERHAPS EVEN OUTRIGHTLY LIEING?
rk: Decide for yourself who to put your trust in!!
rk: You do this every day with people whom you don't know except through words on a computer screen.
rk: Discernment in a Corrupted Society such as ours is vital to Spiritual and physical Survival when dealing with the "blind who seek to lead the blind."
rk: Listen to: http://www.arkenterprises.com/kathyd.html
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
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From: "Kathy L. Dean" <kathylynndean@d...>
Date: Fri Jun 4, 2004 5:43 am
Subject: Various Items...
kld: DELETED:
JOSEPHINE COUNTY, OREGON: THE INMATES ARE RUNNING THE ASYLUM!!
By Raymond Karczewski
SEE: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch99.html#COUNTY
For Those In Search of Truth: This is What You Are Up Against in the Josephine County Oregon World of BINKY WONKY!!
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004
"P" wrote:
Its getting weirder and weirder out there, Ray! I listened to the tape andI must say there was nothing threatening in that call at all. She appearsto be more dangerous than the Jo Co Sheriffs dept. People who act of theirfears, chaos and drama will do terrible things that they might not otherwisedo. I believe that is how the gestapo in Nazi Germany got constituted:normal average citizens who were either psychopaths or extremely fearful.I am sorry your life is filled with these kind of people.
Wish I could do more. P
kathylynndean@direcway.com wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3@earthlink.net) wrote:
Date: Fri Jun 4, 2004 10:33 am
Subject: Re: Various Items...
--- In JOCO_SheriffsWatch@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy L. Dean"
<kathylynndean@d...> wrote:
js: > Kathy, the person who has been calling you is Karczewski!!! He has confessed to it on his website - see
http://arkenterprises.com/dialch99.html
js: > I know you don't trust the JOCO system, but you need to get a restraining order on this guy before it's too late. He is lurking here, and copying things you say over to his bulletin board, and now he is stalking you on the telephone.
rk: Lurk? Do you mean I read articles which pertain to me while I am banned from the group?
rk: Stalking? Do you mean the recorded phone call which speaks for itself? Listen to: http://www.arkenterprises.com/kathyd.html
js: > Does he know where you live? First he started stalking you via email, then he started stalking you by telephone, you don't want this guy showing up at your house!
rk: My articles posted on the JOCO SheriffsWatch forum prior to and subsequent to my being banned also speak for themselves. Let's face it, jack, you can't make a "sows ear out of a silk purse."
rk: By the way, the JOCO SheriffsWatch forum operates on submission of articles via email. Does that mean that all forum contributors equally stalk kathy? Let's face it jack spratt, you too, along with your misdirecting disinformation tangents, will be investigated in this matter; that is, if the American People and Josephine County taxpayers are fed up and really want to clean up this mess of Government Corruption here in Josephine County, Oregon.
kld: >> Second, I received a rather frightening phone call from this man today, but I have caller ID so didn't pick up. What he left on my answering machine is quite shocking. Since JoCo has a "First Time Doesn't Count" threat law, there is nothing I can do about it. By the way, we now have that rule on video tape. Both Justema and Tripp explained it in detail to Nick at our front gate.
kld: >> Thirdly, I'm beginning to get a little worried. I not only have to watch my back for cops, I now have to watch it for this guy, too. And, I assume for the people on his list.
kld: >> Fourth, if something happens to us, you'll know who is on the suspect list. This is the fifth scathing message I have received:
rk: All of my messages are posted on the bulletin board. Scathing? Two truisms apply to the above statement -- "Eye of the beholder", and "If the shoe fits, wear it!!"
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From: "Kathy L. Dean" <kathylynndean@d...>
Date: Fri Jun 4, 2004 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: Ray K'.s Messages...
kld: > Since the Grants Pass Courier printed our address on page one Under the title of CHICKEN KIDNAPPER, EVERYONE knows where we live. This is just Hell. Absolute Hell.
rk: kathy, you've just experienced the Grants Pass Courier as the JOCO government/media spokesman. Did you really expect balanced reporting from them?
kld: >> I can't do anything about it. The State Police refuse to help us on any matters, and there is no way I would ever phone the Sheriff Dept again in my life. I'm still very traumatized about the whole ordeal. I could be dying and wouldn't phone them. There are many other people that feel the same way.
rk: I wonder if anyone has picked up on the unbroken psychological thread that permeates all of your posts -- "POOR ME, POOR ME," "I'm not stupid," "Help me, help me," "I'm so busy," "I'm so traumatized!" For those readers who are unaware, it's called a psychological hook. Every blind compensating ignoramus who cannot function on their own will flock to help and commiserate with other flawed individuals, as it enables them to feel better about their own impotence. It is the essence of the "blind leading the blind"-- it is the nature of "Sheeple." The JOCOSheriffsWatch board displays that flaw in human makeup like few other Internet sources.
rk: I wonder if any of these unaware JOCO dullards who flock to defend and soothe kathy's ruffled feathers, understand the basic contradiction of her banning me from the JOCO SheriffsWatch board, and yet she prints my articles in full by attaching them to her "poor me," "poor me" messages as she continues her efforts to work the crowd for sympathy?
kld: >> I had a very old friend from Oakland. CA tell me not to let anyone know what Ray is doing to me, because he will feed off of it.
rk: When you say "feed", do you mean rebut gossip and libel? When it comes to desire for intrigue, Machiavelli had nothing on this "JOCO chicken crowd." What the "chicken group" lacks, however, is the intelligence to carry it off.
kld: >> But my friend does not know how Ray operates, or what he has done to other websites and forum groups.
rk: You're right, our corrupt and spiritually deteriorating society does find the simple TRUTH spoken/written to be a hard pill to swallow. But then again, all you have to do is look at the state of the world to see what civilized ignoramuses have made of this human society. My survival in the courts and on these newsgroups/forums is traced directly to the divine protection afforded those who stand openly and independently in Truth. In a world of numbed and dumbed down ignoramuses, they do stick out like "sore thumbs" don't they?
kld: >> There are dozens of sites on the web outlining the problems they had with Ray and how they finally got
rid of him,
rk: Yes, there are. And I suggest all who are truly interested in understanding how one man, standing in Truth can have such a widespread impact upon the "go along to get along" norm, got to these groups. actually read my posts. Then look at the usual inanities which pass as normal communication. The JOCO SheriffsWatch Board is a good start.
See: http://www.arkenterprises.com/dialch97.html#Man
rk: In each and every one of them, I have demonstrated that the "gates of hell" cannot prevail against any man who stands under the protective umbrella of simple truth. Hence the only solution to those in charge is to protect and preserve the group's collective ignorance by banning the Messenger who threatens to awaken them from their conditioned slumber.
kld: >> so I think I will start contacting them for advice. I
really don't know what else to do. Yes I realize it is both libel
and slander now since he has phoned me.
rk: There is indeed libel afoot kathy, but not by me. I will stand on what I have written in my articles -- will you on yours, kathy?
kld: >> Why would someone even do this to another person? That's what I don't understand.
rk: Look in the mirror. Be quiet. Your question will answer itself.
kld >> He knows we are going through a lot of pain right now, so why would someone try to make it worse?
rk: There's that "poor me," "poor me," "help me," "help me" hook again!!
kld: >> And, why is he so fascinated by me? It's so abnormal and frightening.
rk: When looking into the mirror, BASSACKWARDS is always reflected, is it not?
kld >> And why would someone think I would have Government ties and be a secret agent of some sort?
rk: That's an assumption on your part. Show me, in my posts or in our conversations, where I have called you "a secret agent" of some sort.
kld >> If I had that kind of power, my husband sure wouldn't be tagged as a chicken thief!
rk: You're absolutely right kathy, you don't have that kind of power (you just think you do). As to Nick being "tagged as a chicken thief," consider this: You live in JOSEPHINE COUNTY, OREGON, land of binky wonkyites.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
kld >> His latest message is below; it's pretty bad:
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For Those In Search of Truth: This is What You Are Up Against in the Josephine County Oregon World of BINKY WONKY!!
By Raymond Karczewski
